Assalaamu A'laykum..
So is this the world for only Males?
I will say no...
Because, Polygamy necessarily is not the way we can Live NOW.. IN THIS TIME!
I know you must be saying, Well Thats what our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did...
BUT..
He did it Because, It was an Era where the Women were being tortured, and Sold by people, Since they are physically VERY weak from the Males...
and that was the barbaric time.. Only the Survial Of the FITTEST... so there was NO value of education like its NOW.. So only the People Who had Strength could Dominate the Weaks.. Thus, the women were Pitted and Beaten, Humiliated, Raped.. By the Barbaric people.. Women had NO respect No one who could help them.. since there was only few muslims then.. and all the Kaffeers were Doing all the Wrong dids to The Women... Thus.. To save them, Our Prophet told his men, that its Jaez.. To marry the Helpless women.. JUST FOR THEIR SAKE!!!!!! TO SAVE THEM!!!!! and NOT FOR FULLFILLING Their OWN desires!!!
and Now.. Women are strong.. they know how to protect themselves..through education.. SUbhanallah..!!!and that's Because, Of Islam... and Thus..
There is NO need of Polygamy...
BUT if you consider the Helpless women in the 3rd world... Then There Polygamy is Definitely Needed.. But NOT in USA.. or GBR.. Or not even the Strong women from the 3rd world who can Have an education and Make their own living!!
DON'T you know that ALLAH Ta'Alah Said..?
ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE EQUAL!!!!!!!!!!!
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By Anonymous on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 04:49 pm:
In The Name of Allah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy.
Allah The Most High has said:
"Whoever obeys the Messenger, has obeyed Allah."(4:80)
"Whatever the Messenger gives you, then take it and whatever he prohibits you, then stay away from it."(59:7)
"Today I have completed for you your Religion and perfected My Favour upon you, and have chosen Islaam as your Religion(Deen)."(5:3)
The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) said:
"O people, I have left amongst you that which if you cling onto you will never go astray; The Book of Allah and my Sunnah." al-Haakim.
"To proceed; Indeed the best speech is the book of Allah and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad, and the worst of affairs are the newly invented matters, and every innovation is misguidance." Muslim.
You are not the first person (you won't be the last either) to use the 'That was then, This is now' argument. It has no basis in Islam and is not the belief of those who follow the Quran and Sunnah.
How can we claim to follow Islam if we make the halal, haram and the haram, halal?
How can we claim to be of those who submit their will to the Will of Allah if we dislike that which Allah and His Messenger(SAW) has prescribed?
How can we claim to follow the Messenger(SAW) while we are following our desires?
The Book of Allah and the Sunnah of Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) is clear and precise. The Deen of Islam has been completed and it is perfect. It has been prescribed for the whole of mankind from the time of the Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) until the Last Day.
A Muslim is one who accepts the deen of Islam totally, without dispute or dislike of its rules and regulations, without adding or subtracting anything to it. The deen of Islam is based upon knowledge with its proofs. It is for this reason that there will not cease to be a group of people who will remain steadfast upon the straight path. So those who oppose the correct path are only fooling themselves and have no proof for what they do. This applies to any aspect of Islam.
I sincerely hope you can bring yourself to accept the truth.
Do you really think that women in the US/GBR are more superior to women in other countries because they have jobs?
I'm sure the millions of 'helpless' women (as you put it), would disagree with you. They would argue that it takes a strong woman to fulfil her real responsibilities. To look after the family and raise their children upon good character and deen, those same children who will form society. Those women who have the responsibility of moulding society itself. To expect them to do all this and be forced to earn a living would indeed be oppressive (as is the case in the US/UK). Rather, the honour, respect and position they have is far greater than any job can ever give.
Alhamdulillah.
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By A on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 05:04 pm:
Assalaamu Alaykum..
Well I still don't think you got my SIMPLE point.
You just want to Indulge in this that you have forgotten the SOUL perpose of the Idea POLYGAMY.
That was an era where Polygamy was the only way to save the women.
BUT in the mercy of Allah.. its not ANYMORE.
Why do you still argue about it? PLease REad CAREFULLY and TRY TO UNDERSTAND.. I obviously think you just Don't want to see the point which is right here..
WHY cant you think its ALLAH Ta'lah's mercy that Women around the world are STRONG? and not only the NAKED women of the West... actually the women in the East are far stronger than the Women in the west.. There fore you see women prime Ministers.. in the EAST but never in the WEST..(Except for GBR's Margaret Thatcher)
Ok I forgot you are a Male, so you are JEALOUS about that, BUT until you got the Jealousy out of you, you can't be a true Muslim.
And can't you see How painful it is to share a husband for a woman, who is CAPABLE of So much?
I am not Denying that Polygamy should be uprooted from the earth, as I said it is NEEDED for the Women who are WEAK, not for the Women who are STRONG..
I hope you will except it.
Well our deen is not unscientific.. or Unreasonable, People like YOU are making them.. if you are familier with the word "Mollah" you are one.
And you are Looking at women as Sex objects. BUT DON'T forget, Your Mother is a Women too.
OUR deen was made by our Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) for our own good, not for provoking Jealousy between Sisters. and DON"T deny it, that when there are 2 or MOre strong women in a family sharing same husband.. there is BOUND to be jealousy.. no matter what they will tell you or show you.
So that deen is for the women who are WEAK not strong.
Please accept it brother. Don't be blind. I know in my family if my father were to marry another one... My mom would've killed him.. since my mom has the education and self respect.. And do you see, only the uneducated and the So called "Amir" have more than one wife? I've never seen a WELL educated person to Keep more than one wife in the SAME house.
But The woman who lives in the village is happy to share her husband since she knows she doesn't have an education and cannot survive alone. This is her only choice, and she cannot afford a house maid who can help her with the house work, so she is MORE than happy to share the works and her husband.
so think of the village woman as a woman who lived in THOSE years.
And Allah KNOWS it.... He certainly Loves all the Human Being EQUALY.. and Every one Is EQUAL to HIM. If you don't think so.. I can't do anything or say anything to save you.
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By Samila on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 07:29 pm:
Salaam Aleikum,
As far as I know polygamy existed in every religion even in christainity & in hinduism also but later on they changed the rules.According to islam farz is one and sunnat is four HENCE ISLAM DOES NOT SAY THAT YOU SHOULD MARRY FOUR WIVES (SUNAT IS OPTIONAL) and in this topic I would like to add I THINK IT IS BETTER TO FOLLOW FARZ IN THE MATTER BECAUSE I come from a polygamist family MY FATHER HAVE TWO WIVES AND WE WERE NOT HAPPY.
ALLAH-HAFIZ
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By Anonymous on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 04:15 am:
In The Name of Allah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy.
Allah says:
"Were you to obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, they do nothing but lie."(6:116)
"Say:'Produce your proof if you are truthful'."(2:111)
'A' - you do not bring any proof for what you say. I know with certainty there is no proof for what you say.
End of discussion.
Alhamdulillah.
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By Paula on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 11:25 pm:
You choose your interpretation to suit yourself. Even in the Qur'an it says (somewhere) something to the effect that a man can only have more than one wife if he can treat them all equally. How can he do that? Human beings are all different. Hence: ONE ONLY. You obviously don't have any respect for women yourself.
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By Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2001 - 03:59 am:
Salams.
Paula..THANK YOU for saying what you did..I was getting sick of reading everyone else's arguements (no offense, folks). It's true what she said..that no man is to take a second wife if he is unable to treat both wives equally, to the point that neither feels slighted..
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was no ordinary man..he was indeed a perfect example..No man can be as noble, as kind, generous, loving, and selfless as our dear Prophet (pbuh) was.
To the person who disagreed with the "then and now" views..To some extent i agree with you in that we should not distinguish or pick and choose which rules we follow..but know this..having two wives is NOT a rule. It was/is something allowed by Allah (SWT) in his infinite wisdom to help women suffering from the abuse and hardships they faced. To marry a woman was to agree to support her not only financially, but with love and compassion..and to honor her as your wife and mother of your children. If it so happened that you are the kind of man that can support TWO or more wives, treat them equally, and distribute your love and so on evenly, fine..but I have never in my life met such a man.
Most men can't even do their first wives justice..and they have the nerve to look elsewhere to satisfy their appetites? Please! Take a good hard look around you..And delve even deeper in the Quran..then only will you see that God Almighty has endowed us with the ability to learn, adapt..he has given us logic and reasoning..You are meant to USE the brain Allah has given you and realize that in this day and age it is very rare for the need to arise. Women are educated, independent, and find it harder to come to grips with a husband who is dissatisfied and chooses to look elsewhere for it..If you can't take care of your first wife, don't go looking for another.
well i've rambled on long enough. Sorry if i offended anyone, that wasn't my intention.
Allah Hafiz